When to Lead. When to Manage. What’s the Difference?
- Episode #206
Most leadership problems aren’t about confidence or competence. They’re about using the wrong tool at the wrong time. Coach, speaker and author John D. Harney sits down with host Michi Lantz and shares a grounded, contrarian take on leadership, management, and how to grow real impact without burning out.

John D. Harney is the founder of Courageous Coaching and author of “Lead. Manage. WIN!” (2026). He empowers leaders to transform themselves and their teams amidst life’s greatest challenges. With a focus on relational intelligence and emotional resilience, John helps supervisors at all levels, from executives to frontline managers, master the art of knowing when to manage and when to lead.
His interactive approach combines humor, real-world insights, and proven frameworks that create immediate impact. Based in Dayton, Ohio, John delivers keynote presentations, executive coaching, and development programs that help audiences accept responsibility for their growth and become the people their organizations truly need.
Connect with John Harney
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johndharney/
Website: JohnDHarney.com
Coaching practice: https://www.couragefor.life/
Book: lead-manage-win.com
Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
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Credits:
Host & Producer: Michi Lantz
Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
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