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We Are the System (Laura Hartley)

  • Episode #13

In this episode, Katy talks with business owner and environmental activist Laura Hartley about dismantling capitalism and supremacy culture. Laura asserts that without deep inner changes, we will never see positive outer changes in our world.

Welcome to Soul Savvy Business. This podcast aims to help entrepreneurs find balance and harmony at the intersection of business and spirituality.

Laura Hartley is an activist, coach and founder of Public Love Enterprises, an online school for changemakers to radically reimagine the world.

Host Katy Valentine is a soul minded spiritual entrepreneur. She empowers other entrepreneurs to thrive, creating a global ripple effect. Grab your free meditation at

“It makes sense that we’re afraid; it makes sense that we feel grief; it makes sense that we feel anger, like, these are very healthy responses that I think show our connection to something larger than ourselves.”

Laura Hartley

Laura Hartley is an activist, coach and founder of Public Love Enterprises, an online school for changemakers to radically reimagine the world, co-creating the conditions for social healing and collective thriving.

Laura is fascinated by the space between inner and outer change, and her work empowers changemakers to get free, dismantling capitalism & patriarchy from the inside out.

She runs programs in healing burnout & Cultural Wayfinding: finding purpose through apocalypse. She is also the host of the Public Love Project, a podcast interviewing activists & thought leaders on remaking the world.

Laura lives and works on Gadigal land in Sydney, Australia, but can frequently be found with her gluten-free snacks somewhere around the wild.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
Katy’s website
Laura’s website

Guest – Laura Hartley
Producer – Cynthia Lamb
Executive producer – Danny Iny
Assembled by – Melissa Deal
Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production by Post Office Sound
Music soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

Music and SFX credits: 
Track Title: Shepherd
Artist Name(s): Two Dudes
Writer Name: Adrian Dominic Walther

Track Title: Butterfly Effect
Artist Name(s): Cody Martin
Writer Name: Cody Kurtz Martin

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Soul Savvy Business

How can we pursue both entrepreneurial success and spiritual authenticity? Reverend Dr. Katy Valentine explores that question and more in this spiritually diverse podcast aimed at engaging mindful and curious entrepreneurs. Katy and her guests dive into the intersection of business and spirituality, exploring ways that entrepreneurs of all faiths (including none) can elevate their awareness and find abundance.