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To Train or not to Train (Rick Tamlyn)

  • Episode #24

There may have been a time when a gifted and eager advisor could find success in the industry without formal training, but what about now? Melinda expertly reveals how the industry has evolved over the past few decades, creating broader opportunities but more competition. Resources for training and certification for coaches have expanded with the demand, but are they right for everyone? Melinda and Rick Tamlyn, senior trainer for the world-renowned Coaches Training Institute, weigh in with their perspective and expert advice.

In this episode, Rick and Melinda share their own stories regarding training and credentials and why their differing choices work for them. They agree that effective coaching requires a lot more than adding a few letters after your name, and there is also a lot to be gained by learning from those who have gone before you.

In this episode we discuss:

  • How has the coaching industry evolved over the past few decades and how does that impact the importance of formal training and certification?
  • What’s the difference between coaching and advising or opining?
  • What is a coach’s ultimate responsibility to their client, and what does it really mean to be a coach?
  • Why do you need training?
  • Where can you go for formal training or certification?
  • What should you look for in a training school?
  • If you have formal training, do you also need certification?
  • What are the benefits of formal training or certification?
  • What might the future of the coaching industry look like in terms of needing formal training and certification?

“We’re not here to fix problems; we’re here to hold people accountable to the life they want.” ”

“I think the industry is at a place now, especially from a corporate and organizational perspective, that letters behind our names matter.”

Rick Tamlyn

Rick Tamlyn is a Certified Professional Co-Active Coach (CPCC) and a Master Certified Coach (MCC) as designated by the International Coach Federation (ICF). He is a senior trainer for The Coaches Training Institute, a world-renowned coach training and leadership development organization. Rick Tamlyn inspires people to be their best.

He has a B.A. in Communications from Hope College in Michigan and an MFA from the University of Connecticut. He is a sought-after thought leader and works internationally as an experiential keynote speaker and trainer. As a trusted advisor for Fortune 100 companies, small businesses, nonprofits, and churches, he has built a global audience, speaking and conducting workshops in over 17 countries. Using his own unique brand of wisdom, wit and humor, Rick’s keynotes and workshops are interactive, dynamic and entertaining.

Rick developed a training methodology called The Bigger Game™, that has inspired leaders to step up to the plate and take charge of their business and personal futures. He is also the author of Play Your Bigger Game. You can download the first chapter for free using the link below.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
Coaches Console
Rick’s website
Rick’s free book chapter offer
Rick’s LinkedIn

Guest: Rick Tamlyn
Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer: Cynthia Lamb 
Executive producer: Danny Iny
Scripted and assembled by: Michi Lantz 
Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
Music soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely

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Music and SFX credits: 
Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name(s): Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name(s): Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name(s): Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name(s): Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom


Just Between Coaches

This show is like Oprah’s couch, where conversations cut straight to the heart of the topic, but... it’s only for coaches! Melinda Cohan of the Coaches Console explores the tough questions coaches face on a regular basis. With a new guest host each episode, Melinda provides tactical advice and strategies to address issues like “How do I deal with price resistance?” and “Should I fire my client?”