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The Judgment Engine (Marisa Murray)

  • Episode #18

When judgment revs up, it can be hard to recognize and even harder to stop, subsequently slowing or even halting progress with a client. Marisa Murray, CEO of Leaderley, has asked herself the tough questions about judgment in her own coaching practice of top executives. She knows first hand that when the judgment train leaves the station, coaches can no longer hold a safe coaching space for their clients. 

Fortunately, Marisa has honed in on three absolute truths that any coach can use to slow the judgment engine down and resume positive momentum for a client. Melinda chimes in with some truly insightful advice of her own as she discusses with Marisa what every coach has experienced at least once in their career, and likely more often for seasoned coaches. Together, Marisa and Melinda explore how our judgement engine gets started, what fuels it and how we can slow, stop and even reverse it. 

In this episode we discuss:

  • How to recognize when your voice of judgment shows up.
  • How a client’s triggers can trigger you.
  • Why seasoned coaches are more vulnerable to the judgment engine. 
  • A framework for communication to keep us out of judgment. 
  • How transparency and integrity can turn things around.
  • The three absolute truths you can use to slow and reverse the momentum of judgment.
  • How to stay in discovery and out of judgment. 
  • The importance of trust, faith and deep compassion with your clients. 
  • How to hold a hypothesis and let the client verify your discovery theories.

“Fear will accelerate the judgment engine, and faith will slow it down.” ”

“The only one that’s allowed to be the judge in the conversation is the client.”

Marisa Murray


  • Guest: Marisa Murray
  • Host: Melinda Cohan
  • Produced and written: Cynthia Lamb 
  • Executive producer: Danny Iny
  • Assembled by: Michi Lantz 
  • Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
  • Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
  • Music soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely

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Music and SFX credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name(s): Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name(s): Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name(s): Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name(s): Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom


Just Between Coaches

This show is like Oprah’s couch, where conversations cut straight to the heart of the topic, but... it’s only for coaches! Melinda Cohan of the Coaches Console explores the tough questions coaches face on a regular basis. With a new guest host each episode, Melinda provides tactical advice and strategies to address issues like “How do I deal with price resistance?” and “Should I fire my client?”